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		<title>By: Tom</title>
		<link>http://costumebot.com/archives/11/comment-page-1#comment-2595</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 May 2012 03:06:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Nicole.  No worries.  In all the time I&#039;ve been costuming, I&#039;ve never had a battery heat up the way you describe unless something is wrong with either the fan or the connections.  Don&#039;t give up!  It&#039;s all a learning process.  Almost every project involves trial and error, so there&#039;s always some error to deal with.  :)  Good luck and let me know if I can help you in any way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Nicole.  No worries.  In all the time I&#8217;ve been costuming, I&#8217;ve never had a battery heat up the way you describe unless something is wrong with either the fan or the connections.  Don&#8217;t give up!  It&#8217;s all a learning process.  Almost every project involves trial and error, so there&#8217;s always some error to deal with.  <img src='http://costumebot.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />   Good luck and let me know if I can help you in any way.</p>
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		<title>By: Nicole</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nicole</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 May 2012 02:31:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry Tom...I just scrolled down and read your post about hot batteries.  Please disregard my previous post.  I&#039;m starting to think I should&#039;ve just sprung for the pricey pre-made mascot fan.

Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry Tom&#8230;I just scrolled down and read your post about hot batteries.  Please disregard my previous post.  I&#8217;m starting to think I should&#8217;ve just sprung for the pricey pre-made mascot fan.</p>
<p>Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: Nicole</title>
		<link>http://costumebot.com/archives/11/comment-page-1#comment-2593</link>
		<dc:creator>Nicole</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 May 2012 02:14:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Tom - I just connected my fan per your instructions.  The battery got super hot after only a minute running.  I&#039;m installing it in a foam and fur costume and can&#039;t have that amount of heat.  Any suggestions?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Tom &#8211; I just connected my fan per your instructions.  The battery got super hot after only a minute running.  I&#8217;m installing it in a foam and fur costume and can&#8217;t have that amount of heat.  Any suggestions?</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Apr 2012 16:24:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, Rod.  There are a couple of things that could be causing the batteries to heat up.  Either the positive and negative poles of the batteries are shorted together or the fans are drawing too much current.  I kinda doubt it&#039;s the latter, especially if the guy who installed them had no issues before.  

If they get hot while the switch is off, there&#039;s got to be a short somewhere.  You might want to try a different switch.  If you have a meter or a circuit tester, check continuity across the poles of the switch when it&#039;s in each position.  It could be that the switch itself is odd or that the poles you connected your wires to are always connected for some reason.  Could be that there&#039;s a solder bridge across them or even one or two small strands of wire touching. You want to make sure there&#039;s no connection between the positive and negative battery wires.  Try it with one fan and one battery on the switch and test.

If you&#039;re wiring the fans in series, there could be issues if they&#039;re wired incorrectly.  If the fans are wired in series, then the batteries must be wired in series as well.  I prefer one battery per fan, myself, so if one battery drains faster I don&#039;t lose both fans.

You can&#039;t wire two fans to one battery in any case.  the current draw will drain the single battery very quickly and possibly cause some heat.

This may sound silly, but double check that you know which is the positive connector and which is negative.  on 9V batteries I find myself questioning that from time to time and it isn&#039;t always marked clearly on the battery.  If you&#039;re using someone else&#039;s wiring harnesses, you might double check those too.

I&#039;ve always used 9V batteries to run small 12V fans with no issues.  They just run a little slower.  I expect you&#039;ll be able to sort it out.  Let me know if you have any other questions after you&#039;re done testing.  I hope this helps.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, Rod.  There are a couple of things that could be causing the batteries to heat up.  Either the positive and negative poles of the batteries are shorted together or the fans are drawing too much current.  I kinda doubt it&#8217;s the latter, especially if the guy who installed them had no issues before.  </p>
<p>If they get hot while the switch is off, there&#8217;s got to be a short somewhere.  You might want to try a different switch.  If you have a meter or a circuit tester, check continuity across the poles of the switch when it&#8217;s in each position.  It could be that the switch itself is odd or that the poles you connected your wires to are always connected for some reason.  Could be that there&#8217;s a solder bridge across them or even one or two small strands of wire touching. You want to make sure there&#8217;s no connection between the positive and negative battery wires.  Try it with one fan and one battery on the switch and test.</p>
<p>If you&#8217;re wiring the fans in series, there could be issues if they&#8217;re wired incorrectly.  If the fans are wired in series, then the batteries must be wired in series as well.  I prefer one battery per fan, myself, so if one battery drains faster I don&#8217;t lose both fans.</p>
<p>You can&#8217;t wire two fans to one battery in any case.  the current draw will drain the single battery very quickly and possibly cause some heat.</p>
<p>This may sound silly, but double check that you know which is the positive connector and which is negative.  on 9V batteries I find myself questioning that from time to time and it isn&#8217;t always marked clearly on the battery.  If you&#8217;re using someone else&#8217;s wiring harnesses, you might double check those too.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve always used 9V batteries to run small 12V fans with no issues.  They just run a little slower.  I expect you&#8217;ll be able to sort it out.  Let me know if you have any other questions after you&#8217;re done testing.  I hope this helps.</p>
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		<title>By: Rod</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rod</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Apr 2012 14:27:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Question about fan installation:  This is similar to a previous question but ......I am using the Radio Shack cooling fans I think the one in my Trooper mask is 3x3 and the Vader is the smaller one due to lack of space.  These are 12V fans.  The previous owner had them hooked up with two 9V batteries.  Had to install a new switch in one....Bla...Bla....Bla.  Anyway, what am I doing wrong if when I turn on the fans, they work perfect but the batteries get super hot really fast and the drain out even if the switch is off???  I have tried running them tandum and in sequence and gotten the same results.  I am not sure what to do.  I am assuming that they are reving up with too many amps?  Not sure.  Please advise.  I keep getting told that everyone uses 9V to run there fans and amplifiers.  What am I doing wrong?.  The fans say 12V.  Do I need a 12V battery??  That seems a little bulky and heavy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Question about fan installation:  This is similar to a previous question but &#8230;&#8230;I am using the Radio Shack cooling fans I think the one in my Trooper mask is 3&#215;3 and the Vader is the smaller one due to lack of space.  These are 12V fans.  The previous owner had them hooked up with two 9V batteries.  Had to install a new switch in one&#8230;.Bla&#8230;Bla&#8230;.Bla.  Anyway, what am I doing wrong if when I turn on the fans, they work perfect but the batteries get super hot really fast and the drain out even if the switch is off???  I have tried running them tandum and in sequence and gotten the same results.  I am not sure what to do.  I am assuming that they are reving up with too many amps?  Not sure.  Please advise.  I keep getting told that everyone uses 9V to run there fans and amplifiers.  What am I doing wrong?.  The fans say 12V.  Do I need a 12V battery??  That seems a little bulky and heavy.</p>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 28 May 2011 07:44:17 +0000</pubDate>
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